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The Urban Dictionary Definition of Busy Season Is the Most Depressing Thing Ever

Posted on February 21, 2014 by Adrienne Gonzalez

Life at Deloitte should really make this the link in their Twitter bio.

 

Posted in Career CenterTagged Busy season, sucks to be you, that's the Internet for you

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Future Big 4 Associate Needs Help Choosing Between Commuting Hell and a Happy Marriage

  • Daniel Braddock
  • November 13, 2010

Ed. Note: DWB was sober long enough today to pen this post for the Friday edition of Accounting Career Couch. If you’ve got a question for us email us at advice@goingconcern.com. We’ll dispense with further pleasantries and get right to it.

I just received three offers from two Big 4 firms in San Francisco (Deloitte and KPMG) for audit and one Big 4 firm for advisory internal audit in San Jose. I really like the idea of going into advisory but the problem is that I live in San Francisco and the advisory clients for this firm are all located around San Jose and the Silicon Valley. This would likely mean at least a one hour and 15 minute commute every day each way from SF to SJ and back againlients I would likely be working on from SF are all located within 20 minutes of my apartment in the city. Moving to San Jose is out of the question for me because my wife works in SF and I’m not ready for a divorce just yet. My question to you and Going Concern readers is should I take the advisory job despite the crazy commute or should I take one of the audit positions?

I’d still be very happy taking one of the audit positions but I’d be lying if I didn’t say that the more consistent working hours of advisory internal audit didn’t appeal to me much more than audit (no insane busy season in advisory). Much of this benefit would be negated by my much longer commute though. Also, if I choose advisory I would be likely getting reimbursed $0 for my commute since the job is based out of the SJ office and I am based in SF. Although $0.50 a mile doesn’t sound like a lot, it really does add up to several thousand dollars in missed reimbursement expenses for such a long commute (assuming 80 miles a day in reimbursable driving). Also, the advisory position pay is slightly less to begin with (approximately $1,500 less) than my audit offers. Other considerations that I am thinking about are that many people from the Deloitte office (mostly associates) have said that the Deloitte SF office is understaffed. To me this means more opportunity for advancement but also more hours of work. Also, I feel that if I started in audit I could do two years of audit and if I didn’t like it then could jump ship to advisory in SF rather than having to start at advisory in SJ and beg to get a transfer to the SF advisory practice in a year or two. So what should I do? Should the lengthy and costly commute for advisory versus audit be a deal breaker? Will I struggle to break into advisory after two years in audit if I decide to make the switch?

Hopefully I’ve given enough info about my choices so that DWBraddock will stop complaining about us not saying enough in our requests for advice.

Kudos to you and your detailed email. Peons of the accounting world – take note [Ed. note: but there is something to be said for brevity. Yeesh.].

First off, my advice is from the “this is usually how it works” camp. Are there exceptions? Of course, and I’m sure that commenters will point them out.

Are you sure you will be reimbursed for every single mile that you travel? The HR policy is typically the net difference between your home to the office and your home to the client site. For example if you live 50 miles from the office and the client site is 53 miles from your home, you are reimbursed for the three mile difference. I strongly encourage you to consult HR before you go re-adjusting the all-in value of the advisory offer with thousands of dollars of mileage.

Now that I crushed your dream of banking $1,000’s, let’s discuss the audit vs. internal audit battle. You make a lot of assumptions in your email, but I think these bullets cover everything you discussed:

• Internal audit should not be looked at as a green-lighted pass to jump around the advisory practice. Many advisory roles are target recruited and are very specialized from a work capacity point of view. The name “advisory” doesn’t mean the roles are similar; it’s simply a nicer way of saying “everything that’s not audit and tax.”

• You will not be fast-tracked at Deloitte just because they’re short staffed. You will work your ass off.

• It’s easier to go from internal audit to external audit, not the other way around (the way you mentioned).

• Don’t think a transfer is a simple process. There has to be a need in the office you want to transfer to, and considering you’re contemplating and office and practice switch-a-roo in one swift motion…really? This is not a game – this is business and not everyone gets what they want.

• PS – I forwarded this to your wife. She said you’re sleeping on the couch for the next week.

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Job of the Day: Global Partnership Schools Needs a Controller

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  • March 15, 2010

Global Partnership Schools is looking for a controller to oversee the the financial reporting system and supervise the accounting staff.

This position requires 5 to 7 years experience and CPA or CMA license.

Check out the details for this position, located in New York, after the jump.


Company: Global Partnership Schools

Title: Controller

Location: New York, NY

Experience Required: 5 – 7 years

Description: To develop, maintain and oversee Global Partnership Schools and its associated entities’ financial systems while assisting CFO in all areas of financial management and company operations.

Responsibilities: Design and develop financial accounting systems; prepare budgets; supervise accounting processes; review and analyze financial reports. Coordinate with external auditors and tax consultants; Design, monitor and implement financial systems, policies and procedures; Meet finance operational standards by contributing information to strategic financial plans and reviews; implement production, productivity, quality, and customer-service standards; resolve problems and identify system improvements; Supervise accounting staff and carry out responsibilities in accordance with Global Partnership School’s policies and procedures and applicable state and federal laws; Accomplish accounting requirements by designing and maintaining accounting processes: including journal entries and general ledger, billing, collections, accounts payable, accounts receivable and purchase orders; supervise bank reconciliations and closing processes; Support annual budget processes; develop and maintain forecasts and models; ensure compliance with Generally Accepted Accounting Practices and cash management; Perform budget vs. actual analysis for Global Partnership Schools on a monthly basis; Prepare monthly financial accounts vs. profit and loss statement, balance sheet, and cash flows for management reporting; Manage payroll process by analyzing, preparing and inputting payroll data using automated system; ensure compliance with all applicable state and federal wage and hour laws; Coordinate with external auditors and tax consultants; prepare and file basic tax returns; Oversee projects as assigned by CFO.

Qualifications: 5-7 years of experience in Financial Management, preferably in an educational setting; CPA/CMA strongly desired; Accounting, cost accounting, financial planning and strategy, financial skills, financial software, analyzing information, implementation of Microsoft Dynamics and exceptional written and oral communication skills. Educational experience strongly desired.

See the entire description over at the GC Career Center and visit the main page for all your job search needs.

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