Do you guys ever read Yahoo! Answers? It’s awesome. Especially the posts that revolve around asking the Internet at large if the asker could be pregnant based on some risky behavior like, say, hanging out topless in a hot tub with a guy with a boner.
But useless drivel aside, sometimes good questions are asked. Given that it’s CPA exam score time once again and some of you who got bad news might not feel like talking about scores, I wanted to share this with you all and see what you think instead of discussing that.
Way back in my CPA review days, when asked this question by our students, I’d almost always tell them to go anyway. Even if you aren’t prepared, you’ve already spent the money on your exam and aren’t getting it back so why not go so you can at least get familiar with the questions?
Here’s the question:
I am scheduled to take the auditing section of the CPA exam tomorrow morning. Problem is, I haven’t studied at all. I also am now in private accounting, but still would like the certification. I have passed one already. I can’t reschedule the test because my Notice to Schedule expires next week.
So I was curious… the money I spent (about $200) is non-refundable- fine. It’s my fault for not studying. But canceling it altogether is $35. My question is, why would I cancel? Can I just not go? I realize going and failing would go on the record, but at least I could see how it is. So I have three options.
First of all, to what “record” is this person referring? I know some of you who have tried and failed over EIGHTEEN times. After the 7th or 8th time, most people learn to keep their mouth shut at work when they are headed to Prometric once again (though all those “personal days” can get a bit suspect), and by the 17th or 18th they have gotten so good at the action of sitting for the exam they actually pass. Your firm doesn’t keep a permanent file with your numerous exam failures in it, though your cattier colleagues might keep a mental one so they have some bullshit to hold over you next time they’re trying to outshine you in front of the partner. Big deal.
Anyway – what’s the benefit of paying more for a no-show over just not going? Assuming you’ve got some time left on your NTS, you will not have to reapply for a new one to take that section. We think. Check out this thread on the Another71 forums for more info on that option, plus yet more commentary on the confusing labyrinth that is dealing with the CPA exam authorities.
Apparently, if you no show, NASBA will allow you to re-apply for a new NTS within 48 hours of your no show exam (see this thread, also from Another71), which could work in your favor if your NTS is going to expire at the beginning of the window but your first passing exam expires at the end and you need the extra time to study.
Your best bet in this situation is to cram in a few days of as much studying as you can and just go. Granted, cramming is pretty useless when it comes to the CPA exam but you never know.
Anyone taken either of these paths? Better yet, has anyone shown up for the exam completely unprepared and actually passed?
Wait, is this saying that 60% of the candidates that took their CPA exams in WA, were international candidates?
Or that 60% of the CPAs minted in the great state of WA were for international candidates taking the CPA outside of the US?
The latter is concerning, the former is concerning but not to the extent of the latter.
https://x.com/PSBJ/status/2024299218194604174
“The Washington State Board of Accountancy issued its most licenses ever in 2025. Only a quarter of the new licensees, however, lived in Washington.”
Wtf is TBTB
TPTB = The Powers That Be aka the people who have the most influence and make the decisions.
Boomers in this “profession”, looking at you big Four and mid-tier firms, and their crony politicians are destroying the CPA profession. Globalization has been and will always be a negative factor for Americans. Everything under the sun will or is in process of getting outsourced. Where is all the protests and anger from the AICPA over this?!?
[Editor note: I had to remove your last sentence, sorry. Message me if you want to brainstorm a way to say what you wanted to say that won’t get us nasty emails from the AICPA and/or their lawyers about it. I hear you though! ~Adrienne]
“Where is all the protests and anger from the AICPA over this?!?”
Why do you think the AICPA went global? They are getting dues money from all over the world, so they don’t care where their members live.
Remember, they are now the Association of International… no longer the American Institute
Internationally, having your CPA can be a huge career boost within your own company, and it doesn’t necessarily mean competition with U.S. CPAs – this is partly because the profession has historically done a great job of promoting its values and maintaining a strong reputation. WA has historically had positive business ties overseas, plus their changing CPA eligibility rules make it easier for work-experienced candidates to apply with just a 4-year degree; thus, part of this is the natural combination of those two (it could be any other state with the same factors). Even if not true in every case, this appears to be more a symptom than the problem. U.S. CPA counts are shrinking, no? The work’s gotta get done somehow – the SEC and IRS ain’t gonna wait. With tech expanding the geographic pool of service providers, the ol’ supply/demand curve marches on. Maybe U.S. firms should take a hard look internally as to why their local workforce is shrinking due to a decrease in market entrants and what they can tangibly do about it (i.e. challenge longstanding norms, and *gasp* perhaps put less money in the owners’ pockets just because they suffered through a crappy business model and deserve to be paid to keep it going).
Why can’t we just pay CPA’s more??? Like u gotta increase to at least 6 figures if you want people to go through the hard process of getting the job. I was considering CPA but was hesitant because they get paid as much as a mcdonalds manager and work longer hours
Putting $$ in the owners pockets is all the large firms care about. They could have taken action to address the accountant shortage years ago. We can wonder about whether the shortage was created purposefully or not but offshoring work absolutely benefits large firm owners financially.
“Should We Be Concerned?” No.
Washington is one of the few states that does require residency or a social security number to get your CPA license. A little context goes a long way…
This is beyond shameful, and grassroots CPAs need to demand action from the fat cats at the AICPA. The townhalls have turned into nothing more than a circle jerk of all that is wrong with this profession…
This is disheartening. I am studying for my CPA and there’s already so much competition from offshoring. It makes you really wonder if its worth it if they’re just going to give the job to someone who will work for half the pay.
Having a defeatist attitude and blaming offshoring might be popular among the associates happy hour events but it will not help your career. It blows my mind how so many on this site are afraid of competition.