
EY Narrowly Missed Hitting $50 Billion in Revenue for the First Time
As we all know, EY had a tough year. Mostly due to their own choices, choices that led to the professional services equivalent of a wet fart. Despite the proposed audit and consulting split falling apart and leaving a $500 million dollar hole in the firm’s pocket, they still had “one of the most successful […]

Deloitte Global Smashed Revenue Records Again
Deloitte reported global revenue today and no one will be surprised to hear that it once again broke a record: $64.9 billion for the 2023 fiscal year ended May 31, 2023. That’s a 14.9% increase from Deloitte’s 2022 revenue, not quite as big a jump as the 19.6% increase between 2021 ($50.2 billion) and 2022 […]

RSM US Is That Much Closer to $4 Billion in Revenue
First, our apologies to Brian Becker for any rumor-denouncing emails he may have been compelled to send this week. 🥺👉👈 Let’s ignore that and focus on something good for RSM: fiscal 2023 revenue. The firm ended the year at $3.7 billion according to its recently released impact report, a whole 400 million dollar — or […]

BDO USA Reports $2.8 Billion in Revenue
BDO USA has released revenue numbers for the 12-month period ending April 30, 2023 and the sixth-largest accounting firm in the US ended the year with a self-reported $2,822,600,000, a year-over-year increase of 13.3%. It was only two years ago that the firm topped $2 billion for the first time and 2023 marks the eleventh […]

Bonus Season Is Not Looking Good at the King’s KPMG
According to reporting across the pond (including this story from City A.M. we shall be quoting in a moment), KPMG UKers are not going to have a fruitful bonus season due in large part to a slowdown in business. KPMG has slashed the bonus pool of its UK workforce and reined in commission for salespeople […]

Grant Thornton’s Global Revenue Is On the Up and Up
Grant Thornton is the latest global accounting firm to announce “we made a shitload of money in 2022” when it released last week its revenue results for the most recent financial year: Grant Thornton International Ltd today [Dec. 14] announced its revenues grew to a record USD7.2 billion for the financial year ended 30 September […]

BDO’s Global Revenue Went Up About a Billion Dollars in 2022
The results are in at BDO, and the fifth largest accounting firm in the world brought in $12.8 billion in revenue during its 2022 financial year, which ended on Sept. 30—an 8.5% increase over last year’s revenue of $11.8 billion. The new guy in charge of BDO globally, Pat Kramer, said, “In the change-dominated world […]

KPMG Pulled In a Kool $34.6 Billion in Global Revenue in FY 2022
Well, well, well, KPMG had a 14% increase in global revenue in its 2022 fiscal year that ended Sept. 30—the second largest year-over-year increase in revenue among the Big 4 firms behind Deloitte’s 18.1%. And of course there’s a press release: KPMG International announces strong annual aggregated revenues for KPMG firms globally of US$35 billion […]

EY Dumbly Nixes Mid-Year Bonuses
On a Friday all-hands call, EYers learned not to expect a bonus from Santa this year. This despite EY having its best year in 20 years. In September, EY announced revenue of $45.4 billion for the fiscal year ended June 30, 2022, an increase of 13.7% from prior year and the most year-over-year growth the […]

Grant Thornton Achieves Dynamic Revenue Growth of 17% in 2022
The petals on the Purple Rose of Chicago were in full, fragrant bloom in 2022 as Grant Thornton posted revenue for its fiscal year ending July 31 of $2.3 billion, a nearly 17% increase over the $1.97 billion the firm brought in last year. 2022 was clearly one of the best years GT has had […]

When it Comes to Global Revenue, PwC is Still Deloitte’s Bi*ch
2015. That was the last time PwC held the distinction of being the world’s biggest accounting firm by revenue, edging Deloitte by a $35.4 billion to $35.2 billion margin. But since then it’s been all Deloitte, overtaking PwC in 2016 and widening its lead in 2022 to about $9 billion now that PwC has officially […]

EY Basks in the Glory of Third-Place Revenue (Maybe for the Last Time) in 2022
The Big 4 firm with a split personality officially announced today its fiscal 2022 revenue of $45.4 billion—a figure we knew several weeks ago thanks to the Financial Times. EY has always seemed perfectly fine with being the third biggest accounting firm in the world by revenue, knowing it’ll never catch PwC for second place […]

Another Year, Another Revenue Record For Deloitte in 2022
This morning turned out to be a pretty big Big 4 news day. First, we had EY’s top brass approving splitting its auditing and consulting businesses (no surprise here). Then we had Deloitte announcing its global revenue for 2022—and it’s a record amount (no surprise here either). The Green Dot pulled in $59.3 billion in […]

RSM US Took Its Revenue to a New Level in 2022
That level being $3 billion—a first in the firm’s 96-year, multinamed history. In its 2022 annual report, which was released earlier this week, RSM US noted that its revenue for the year ending April 30 was $3.3 billion ($3,310,265,000 according to INSIDE Public Accounting), a 15% increase over its 2021 revenue of nearly $2.9 billion. […]

Big 4 Global Revenue Numbers For 2022 Have Started to Trickle Out
While not officially official yet, two of the Big 4’s global CEOs recently teased how good things were revenue-wise at their respective firms in 2022. In an interview with the Financial Times earlier this month, PwC’s Bob Mortiz said the firm’s global revenue for its most recent fiscal year would be close to $50 billion, […]

BDO USA Had a Pretty Good 2022 Revenue-Wise
One year after cracking $2 billion in revenue for the first time, BDO USA added another 25% to that total during its fiscal year 2022 which ended on April 30. BDO reported revenue of $2,490,400,000 in 2022, up from $2,000,300,000 in 2021. It’s the 10th year of revenue growth under CEO and leader of the […]

Deloitte is Coming to Take PwC’s Consulting Crown in Australia
News is slow over here in the land of Coors and corn syrup, let’s take a quick trip to Oceania. Via AFR: Deloitte is challenging PwC’s place as the largest consultancy by revenue in Australia as the firm posts a 19 per cent jump in income to $2.5 billion in the year to May. The […]

Updated List of Accounting Firm Average Partner Profits In the UK For 2021
Hey Grant Thornton UK partners, how y’all livin’? Probably not too bad these days, now that the average profit for those of you in the club went up 34% to £611,000 in 2021. With GT releasing its 2021 average partner pay yesterday, as well as firm profits and net revenue, we’ve updated our list of […]

Here Are the 20 Richest Football Clubs In the World, According to Deloitte
The Walmart of professional services firms just released the latest installment of its Football Money League report, which profiles the financial performance of the highest revenue-generating clubs in the world of football … er, soccer. And here’s why all you hooligans should be interested in this year’s report, according to Deloitte: This year’s edition is […]

So to Recap, Partners At the Largest Accounting Firms In the UK Are Swimming In Money
On Tuesday morning we got a tip from a source across the pond confirming the big news of the day at the Queen’s KPMG: Big pay day at KPMG UK for the partners. Unbelievable. Treat the staff rough but still come out on top. We’ve written a lot in the past few years about how […]

Not Surprisingly, Grant Thornton Made Billions Across the Globe In 2021
Grant Thornton didn’t want to be left out of the billionaires club for 2021. GT joined Deloitte, PwC, EY, KPMG, BDO, and RSM by pulling in at least 10-digit global revenues this past fiscal year. Specifically, Grant Thornton racked up $6.6 billion in 2021, up from $5.8 billion in 2020. The press release Grant Thornton […]

RSM Is Pretty Pleased With Its Global Haul In 2021
The months of August through early December are usually reserved for the annual Big 4 dick-measuring contest of whose global revenues are the biggest and whose grew the most, while the top mid-tier firms (BDO, RSM, Grant Thornton) wait until that contest is completed before announcing their numbers in mid- to late December or early […]

Here Is a Graphic That Shows All You Need to Know About BDO’s 2021 Global Revenue
Pretty much all accounting firm press releases are filled with back-patting gobbledygook, but recaps of a firm’s most recent financial year take the word salad to the extreme. For example, BDO’s recent press release on its FY 2021 global revenue. Execs at BDO, the fifth-largest accounting firm in the world by revenue, probably gave the […]

KPMG Got Dibs On Being the Big 4 Firm With the Biggest Year-Over-Year Revenue Increase In FY 2021
The last of the Big 4 firms to release its global revenue results for fiscal year 2021 did so last night, as KPMG posted $32.1 billion, an increase of 10% over its 2020 revenue of $29.2 billion. Things could only get better for the House of Klynveld in 2021, as KPMG was the only Big […]

PwC Hits $45 Billion In Global Revenue In ‘New Equation’-less FY 2021
The FY 2021 numbers are in at PwC and global revenue rose 4.9% to $45.1 billion for the year ending June 30. Hey, nice job, everyone. And as you’d expect, Bob Mortiz is #PwCProud: “I’m tremendously proud of all we achieved in a challenging year, and the way we did it, leading with our values […]

Despite a 2.6% Increase In 2021, Grant Thornton Couldn’t Catch BDO USA In the Midtier Firm Revenue Pissing Contest
This just in from the purple gang: Grant Thornton LLP, the U.S. member firm of Grant Thornton International Ltd., today announced record revenues of $1.97 billion for the fiscal year ended July 31, 2021. “In a changing and uncertain environment, we continue to remain agile and perform with excellence across our entire firm, including our […]

Don’t Worry About Deloitte Partners In the UK, They’re Doing Just Fine
The Financial Times yesterday wrote about the rich getting richer at the Queen’s Deloitte: Deloitte’s UK partners will receive an average payout of about £1m after the accounting firm’s profits rebounded from a pandemic slump last year, helped by the sale of its restructuring division. The share of profits to 700 equity partners is the […]

EY Rakes In $40 Billion In Global Revenue, Will Try Not to Suck So Much At Auditing
A day after Deloitte got the Big 4 revenue boasting season rolling yesterday, EY announced today that it pulled in a “solid” $40 billion ($39,959,000,000, to be exact) in revenue for the year ending June 30, a 7.3% increase over 2020’s $37.2 billion. But aside from all the patting each other on the back for […]

Deloitte Is the First Big 4 Firm to Clear $50 Billion In Global Revenue
Big 4 revenue bragging season is officially underway with Deloitte being the first out of the gate. But before we get to Deloitte’s haul for fiscal year 2021, let’s recap last year’s global revenue results: Deloitte: +3.9% to $47.6 billion PwC: +1.4% to $43 billion EY: +2.3% to $37.2 billion KPMG: -1.8% to $29.2 billion […]

BDO USA Did Not Feel the COVID Pinch In 2021
As of right now, BDO USA has locked down the sixth spot in the largest U.S. public accounting firms by revenue, after officially announcing this morning that its fiscal year 2021 revenue eclipsed $2 billion, an all-time high. Bravo Delta Oscar came in at $2,000,300,000 for the 12-month period ending April 30, representing a year-over-year […]

So How Much Did PwC U.K. Partners Rake In This Year?
Ferrari, Aston Martin, McLaren, Jaguar, and Mercedes-Benz dealerships in and around London probably have been bustling more than usual lately, and here’s why: PwC’s UK partners took home record pay this year after the firm’s profits rose by a quarter to a fresh high of almost £1.2bn on the boom in corporate dealmaking. Average profit […]

Number of the Day: $2.9 Billion
More specifically, $2,878,519,000. That’s how much revenue was pulled in by RSM US in fiscal year 2021, which ended April 30. While it’s not the eye-opening double-digit revenue increase that the House of Adams had in FY 2020, it’s still solid growth of 6.4% over last year during the height of the pandemic outbreak in […]

Mazars’ FY 2020 Global Revenue Wasn’t As Bland As Its New Logo
Last October Mazars made a huge deal about its new brand identity, including a revamped logo that we thought was as bland as paste. Maybe the firm could have added a little orange to it, ya know, in honor of its most famous client in the U.S. Whatever. It is what it is. But while […]

RSM’s Global Revenue Soared 9.2% in FY 2020 Because the Firm Spat In the Face of Adversity or Something Like That
The international firm formerly known as McGladrey was thrilled with the fact that its global revenue increased 9.2% from $5.7 billion in 2019 to $6.3 billion during the year of our COVID Lord 2020. RSM Global CEO Jean Stephens ruminated: “2020 has been a challenging year but our growth reflects the agility and resilience we […]

Number of the Day: $157 Billion
The year of our COVID Lord 2020 proved to be the biggest challenge the Big 4 firms have faced since the financial crisis, as the pandemic wreaked havoc on global revenue forecasts that looked so promising at the start of each firm’s fiscal year. Deloitte, PwC, EY, and KPMG had combined global revenue of approximately […]

0.7% Is How Much Grant Thornton’s Global Revenue Grew In 2020
Any kind of financial growth during a global pandemic, the likes of which we’ve never seen, should be touted as a win. So it’s no surprise that Grant Thornton’s global PR team really hyped up the fact that GT’s revenue (barely) went in the plus column (unlike KPMG’s) for the 2020 financial year that ended […]

Oof. KPMG’s 2020 Global Revenue Got All F’d Up By the Rona
I had it all planned out. Knowing that KPMG would likely announce its 2020 global revenue this week, I was going to give KPMG kudos and kongratulations and golf claps for finally hitting the $30 billion mark, which would be an all-time high for the firm. And then troll KPMG a little for being the […]

BDO Had a Pretty Decent FY 2020 Globally
While 2020 has been horrible and stressful for pretty much everyone and everything, BDO actually had its best year on record, revenue-wise. Those who know, know BDO hit the $10 billion mark in global revenue for the very first time, topping out at $10.3 billion for the financial year that ended Sept. 30. That’s about […]

Wayne Berson Admits He Is Driving Some People Crazy at BDO USA
In a wide-ranging interview with CJ Prince of Chief Executive magazine, BDO USA CEO Wayne Berson used “BDO” and “powerhouse” in the same sentence, said “no one wants to go to the 5th best firm” (you got dissed, RSM US) but “we don’t see ourselves as inferior to the Big Four,” and explained what CLIMB means […]

Grant Thornton’s Revenue Barely Moved the Needle In FY 2020
Because of the coronavirus pandemic, the petals on the Purple Rose of Chicago wilted some this year. Despite reporting a record high $1.92 billion in revenue for the fiscal year that ended on July 31, Grant Thornton’s revenue only increased 1% in FY 2020 over last year’s $1.9 billion. CEO Brad Preber commented: “Our success […]

Deloitte’s 3.9% Increase In FY 2020 Global Revenue Is the Smallest Growth In About 5 Years
After perusing Deloitte’s FY 2020 global revenue announcement and impact report today, I thought I’d highlight some of the good news and some of the bad news over the past 12 months for D-towners everywhere. First, the good: For the fifth consecutive year, Deloitte has won the Big 4 revenue dick-measuring contest by reporting $47.6 […]

EY Won’t Let a Mere 2.3% Increase In FY 2020 Global Revenue Ruin Its Thursday
The second contestant in the Big 4 global revenue pissing match came out with its FY 2020 financial results today, and EY continued to exert its dominance of third place. The Black and Yellow announced global revenue of $37.2 billion for the fiscal year that ended June 30, a 2.3% increase in U.S. currency terms […]

BDO USA Reports $1.8 Billion in FY 2020 Revenue, Wants Everyone to Know It Is the Most Resilient Firm Ever
The Little Dipper of accounting firms, BDO USA, announced today that its FY 2020 revenue increased 11.3% (I calculated 9.8%, but whatever) to $1.8 billion, up from $1.64 billion last fiscal year. That all looks great on paper, especially during this year of our COVID Lord 2020, but like RSM US, which also reported a […]

RSM US FY 2020 Revenue Results: $2.7 Billion and 4 Guardrails
The 2020 RSM US annual report is out, and boy is it a real page-turner. But I found what I was looking for in the “Our Perspective” portion of the report: RSM’s FY 2020 revenue. If you’ve perused INSIDE Public Accounting’s latest ranking of the top 100 public accounting firms in the U.S. based on […]

Thanks to the Rona, PwC’s Global Revenue Only Went Up a Measly 1.4% in FY 2020
Big 4 revenue gloating season kicked off today with PwC being first out of the gate. In a normal year, EY is typically first bragging about its third-place global revenue, then Deloitte, P. Dubs, and KPMG. But 2020 has been anything but normal, and that is reflected in PwC’s results for the most recent financial […]

Deloitte Is Already Bragging About How Great Its Global Revenues Are For FY 2020
PwC, EY, and KPMG are still looking at Deloitte’s tail lights. For the fifth straight year, Deloitte will win the Big 4 dick-measuring contest in terms of annual global revenue, according to an Australian Financial Review report. Deloitte expects a strong finish to the 2020 financial year despite the effects of the COVID-19 pandemic and […]

RSM’s 6.9% Increase In Global Revenue For 2019 Seems Respectable
Revenue growth for RSM’s global network of firms over the past few years has been steady, if not unremarkable. From 2014 to 2018, global revenue increased an average of about 5.3% each year. But everything was on the up and up for RSM in 2019. Other than what’s in this infographic, RSM wasn’t too transparent […]

Crowe Reports Not-So-Massive Global Revenue In 2019
What a difference a year makes. In 2018, Crowe Global hit and surpassed the $4 billion mark ($4.3 billion, to be exact) for the first time, thanks to massive revenue growth of 14% over the prior year. And backs were being patted in all of Crowe’s offices around the world: “The headline figures – in […]

Hey Look, Mazars Had a Decent 2019
I was so caught up last week reading and writing about Mazars USA’s scandalous poaching of three CohnReznick partners that I didn’t realize Mazars released its global revenue results for the financial year that closed on Aug. 31, 2019. It’s your typical revenue growth for a firm of Mazars’ size—up from €1.6 billion in 2018 […]

Grant Thornton Made a Little Magic Happen In 2019
Despite layoffs at its U.S. firm and general malaise about its audit practice in the U.K., Grant Thornton pulled a rabbit out of its hat and managed to increase global revenue by 5.1% to $5.72 billion in the 2019 financial year that ended on Sept. 30. Instead of me regurgitating all the numbers provided in […]

Let’s Kongratulate KPMG For Getting *This* Close to $30 Billion of Global Revenue In 2019
Coming off the heels of a better-than-expected 2019 financial year at its U.K. firm (revenues, anyway), puffy-chested KPMG announced today that its global revenue increased 6.2% in local currency terms (or 2.7% using actual mathematics) for the year ended Sept. 30. The three other Big 4 firms posted global revenue of at least $30 billion […]

KPMG U.K. Shocks the World by Having Somewhat Decent Revenue In 2019
When reports from across the pond started surfacing in September about the cost-cutting frenzy (you know, Project Zebra) going on at KPMG, accounting blabbermouths (like us) were salivating at the thought of how bad the firm’s 2019 revenue would be when the numbers were released in December. Well, that day has finally come, and believe […]

BDO Is the Little Dipper of Accounting Firms
While we patiently wait for KPMG’s 2019 global revenue results to be released sometime within the next week, BDO slid into our inboxes today announcing that its global revenue hit $9.6 billion in 2019, up from $9 billion last year. One of the keys to BDO’s growth is all the shopping the firm has done […]

PwC Earns Record Revenue of $42.4 Billion In FY 2019, Is Still the First Loser
Another Big 4 accounting firm has touted that it made more money in fiscal year 2019 than ever before. First, it was EY. Then it was Deloitte. Now today, PwC sent out its own masturbatory congratulatory press release, saying it achieved a record $42.4 billion in global revenue for the year ending June 30. That’s […]

Grant Thornton Reports 5.4% Increase In FY 2019 Revenue, Still Gloating About Its 2017 PCAOB Inspection Report
Grant Thornton sent out a snoozer of a press release earlier today announcing that its fiscal year 2019 revenue totaled $1.9 billion, up 5.4% from $1.8 billion in 2018. The only fun thing in the release is that GT is still taking a victory lap over its 2017 PCAOB inspection report, which found that only […]

PwC Equity Partner Pay Isn’t Too Shabby In the U.K.
Equity partners at PwC in the U.K. didn’t quite get the haul that their fellow equity partners at Deloitte U.K. got recently, but let’s just say they aren’t going hungry anytime soon. From the Financial Times: More than 900 equity partners, who share in PwC UK’s profits, will receive an average £765,000 for the year […]

With $46.2 Billion In Fiscal 2019 Global Revenue, Deloitte Should Continue to Rule the Big 4
Unless PwC’s global revenue for fiscal year 2019 increases 11.9% from last year, which likely won’t happen, Deloitte will remain No. 1 among the Big 4 firms in revenue for the fourth consecutive year. Deloitte announced today that revenue for FY 2019 was $46.2 billion, a 9.4% increase using the magical “local currency” terms and […]

RSM US Revenue Rose to $2.4 Billion In FY 2019
So says the RSM US 2019 annual report: That’s a 14% increase over the firm’s FY 2018 revenue of $2.14 billion. RSM’s fiscal year ends on April 30. There’s not a whole lot more to add because RSM doesn’t usually send out glitzy, congratulatory press releases on its year-end revenues like EY did today. But […]

RSM Pulled In $5.37 Billion In Revenue Globally In 2018
This slipped through the cracks, but it might be of interest to a few of you RSM fanboys and fangirls. RSM posts record revenues as consulting services power growth. Click here to read more: https://t.co/5EJKaHBnBT#RsmGlobal #revenue #RSMae #People pic.twitter.com/Vym6mOuC9j — RSM UAE (@RSM_AE) January 31, 2019 The $5.37 billion in global revenue the firm hauled […]

Grant Thornton Topped $5.4 Billion in Global Revenue in 2018
It’s a dynamic time to be a GTer (unless you work in the U.K.), as Grant Thornton International announced this week that its network of firms around the world combined to reach a record $5.45 billion in revenue for the financial year that ended on Sept. 30, 2018. Global revenue grew 9.4% in U.S. dollar […]

PwC Global Revenue Hits $41.3 Billion in Fiscal Year 2018
You can breathe a sigh of relief, Green Dot Nation—Deloitte remains the largest accounting firm in the world. We thought maybe, just maybe, PwC would overtake Deloitte for the No. 1 spot this year, but PwC’s global revenue of $41.3 billion for the fiscal year that ended June 30, 2018 fell short of Deloitte’s global […]

Grant Thornton Posts Revenue of $1.8 Billion in Fiscal Year 2018
[Updated with quote from Grant Thornton spokesperson.] The Purple Rose of Chicago put out a very skimpy press release this morning announcing that the U.S. firm’s revenue hit $1.8 billion for the fiscal year that ended July 31, 2018, up 3.4% over last fiscal year. And … that’s pretty much it. Not even a mention […]
Grant Thornton’s Revenue Didn’t Take Time Off
The Purple Rose of Chicago earned $1.45 billion in the U.S., beating last year's haul of $1.35 bil. Judging by Mike McGuire's canned quote, everything is on the up and up: “Our financial results are a direct reflection of the value we’re providing to our clients,” said Mike McGuire, chief executive officer of Grant Thornton […]
Auditor Phones in Auditing Revenue, Gets Totally Busted
The PCAOB posted 26 new inspection reports today, none of which were all that remarkable. But we did take a peek at MaloneBailey's, where we found this little nugget from Issuer C: In this audit, the Firm failed to perform sufficient procedures to determine whether the issuer properly recognized revenue. The issuer manufactured custom products […]
Grant Thornton’s Chosen Markets Netted the Firm Record-Breaking Revenue This Year
Not one to be left out of the "we made a metric shit ton of money this year, guys" party, Grant Thornton announced today the highest revenue in the firm's 90 year history. Considering a dollar could buy you a month's worth of groceries, a house, and a horse 90 years ago1, that's not saying […]
Just How Big a Share of EY’s Revenue Do Partners Get Anyway?
EY recently reported global combined revenue of $27.7 billion, or approximately eleventy bazillion in OMGdollars. Just how much of that do partners see? Unfortunately, we don't have US numbers, so UK numbers will have to do: Partners in the UK firm will receive an average £727,000 share in profits, an increase of 12% on last […]
PCAOB Issues Staff Audit Alert on Auditing Revenue Because Auditors Suck at Auditing Revenue
The PCAOB would like to see auditors get better at a lot of things; showing their work, testing controls, auditing in general. In particular, they would like to see auditors get better at auditing revenue because revenue is so dang important to the big picture here, people. "Revenue is one of the largest accounts in […]
KPMG Achieves Record Revenues In FY13, Still Behind the Other Three Big 4 Firms
Colin linked to KPMG's celebratory tweet in the roundup this morning but he failed to point out the best part. The celebration at KPMG was short-lived when they realized even if they made more money than ever, they still aren't making as much money as everyone else: KPMG International (KPMG) today announced record-high aggregated revenues […]
Grant Thornton Was the Most Dynamite Accounting Firm in 2012, Says Grant Thornton
Eddie Nusbaum & Co. put up a good number, $4.2 billion to be precise. That's 10.4% (USD) greater than last time around. That's pretty good. So good, the firm reports in its press release that "Grant Thornton led the six largest global accounting organizations in reported revenue growth rate for 2012." And that appears to be true. […]
Grant Thornton Is Going Places
Everyone's favorite tattoo parlor, Grant Thornton, has announced its revenues for the fiscal year ended, July 31, 2012 and things went pret-tay, pret-tay, pret-tay good. The $1.212 billion was so good, in fact, that it was a record for the firm and CEO Stephen Chipman says everything is going to plan: Grant Thornton’s strategy is […]
Groupon Got Some of Their Numbers Wrong
The Wall St. Journal reports: Groupon Inc. GRPN +3.84% said it was revising lower the financial results it reported for its fourth quarter, after discovering the company had to set aside more money for customer refunds. The online-coupon site, which went public in November, said its auditor, Ernst & Young, discovered a "material weakness in its […]
There’s Some Fuss About Groupon’s Revenue…or Profits…or Something
You may have heard that the company that encourages people to go broke by saving money, Groupon, filed a S-1 with the SEC last week to go public. It’s been a matter of hot debate as to whether this company is the real deal or simply another house of coupons. One matter that has several people sc is how the company accounts for its revenue. A reader dropped us this note yesterday:
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I am not one to bring up accounting questions on your blog as its not your web site’s background [Ed. note: Uh, you mean, accounting?]. I was wondering if you could post one question and make an exception as it relates to Groupon. How on earth did Groupon get away with Gross Revenue treatment and not net revenue? All my accounting friends from the Big 4 and even people who do not work on the Groupon audit at E&Y are stumped. All the literature points to net revenue which means they would not report gross revenue of 900 million but rather 200 million or so which represents their cut. Given how companies are valued on multiple of revenue this seems like a big issue. Any help would be appreciated by your readers.
Now it’s not exactly clear what our reader is referring to (feel free to comment below if you understand) but here’s a clip from the S-1:
Sorry for the squishiness. As you can see, Groupon is reporting revenue for 2010 of over $700 million (not sure about $900 million). They have a cost of revenue (aka cost of goods sold) of over $400 million with a “gross profit” of $279 million. Now, if you’re thinking “gross profit” should be “net revenue” you’re not alone.
From CNBC, there appears to be a debate over semantics:
Groupon accounts for its revenue differently than say eBay, and in a way that some say is misleading to potential investors. The company defines revenue as “the purchase price paid by customers.” Then there’s the issue of “the cost of revenue,” leaving the company with what it calls “gross profit,” which is “the amount of revenue we retain after paying an agreed upon percentage of the purchase price to the featured merchant.”
Here’s the thing: Many companies like eBay […], which also take a fee for transactions, would consider that “gross profit” number a “net revenue number.” UCLA Anderson School’s accounting lecturer Gordon Klein says the S-1 uses terms in a way he’s never used them before, and this unusual accounting tells him that investors should “run from the stock.” Others say this is a non-issue: Wedbush securities analyst Lou Kerner says that the company has done a totally adequate job outlining its accounting approach. Kerner says whether the company reports its revenue before or after direct costs should have zero impact on investors evaluation of the company.
And co-founder Andrew Mason admits that Groupon does things a little differently. Under a section entitled “We don’t measure ourselves in conventional ways” he writes, “we track gross profit [as a metric], which we believe is the best proxy for the value we’re creating.” But that’s all the explanation he gives. Later the filing states, “We believe gross profit is an important indicator for our business because it is a reflection of the value of our service to our merchants.” And under “How we measure our business” things are equally vague:
Gross profit. Our gross profit is the amount that we retain after paying our merchants an agreed upon percentage of the purchase price to the featured merchant. We believe gross profit is an important indicator for our business because it is a reflection of the value of our service to our merchants. Gross profit is influenced by the mix of deals we offer. For example, gross profit can vary depending on the category of product or service offered in a particular deal. Likewise, gross profit can be adversely impacted by offers that we make for the principal purpose of acquiring new subscribers or establishing our brand and building scale in a new market.
Throughout the S-1, the term “gross profit” is used 52 times. If you’re used to reading SEC Filings, the term may throw you off but ultimately the numbers are what theyare and the terms used seem secondary. If you believe “gross profit” is a bullshit metric for this business, fine that’s one thing but if they choose to use slightly unorthodox terminology, does that mean investors should ‘run from the stock’? Personally, I don’t happen to be customer of any of the banks underwriting this thing, so this of little consequence but accountants like to sweat the details, so feel free to make a case either way in the comments.